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Pharmacy Leaders Podcast: Inspiring Pharmacy Leadership Interviews

May 4, 2018

Dr. Richard Waithe is a community pharmacist in is hometown of Miami, FL. He attended pharmacy school at the University of Florida College of Pharmacy in Orlando. After pharmacy school, Richard noticed the lack of quality care patients received in the community setting, and in response created a personal medication management company, MedVize, a vision of what he thinks MTM will be like in the future. He's also the host of Rx Radio, a podcast exploring not only pharmacy's different career pathways but also what pharmacy practice is like around the world. In this episode of the Pharmacy Future Leaders we talk about Dr. Richard Waithe’s podcast RxRadio and his digital travels through the first nine episodes. 

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welcome to the pharmacy leaders podcast
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finally speaking with dr. Richard wait
who is a community community pharmacist
in his hometown of Miami Florida the
attendant pharmacy school at the
University of Florida College of
Pharmacy in Orlando and after pharmacy
school Richard noticed the lack of
quality care patients received in
community setting and in response
created a personal medication management
company med buys a vision of what he
thinks MTM will be like in the future
he's also host of rx radio and I have
listened to all eight episodes plus the
zero intro and podcast exploring not
only pharmacies different career
pathways but also what pharmacy practice
is like around the world welcome to the
pharmacy podcast thank you so much for
having me I'm really excited about it me
too it's always good to have another
podcaster and this is the first time
I've done video so I'm pretty excited
about this but everyone's leadership
Road is a little bit different tell us a
little bit about where you're from and
how you got there yes so I was raised in
Miami Florida
and I went to the University of sorry I
went to Florida National University for
undergrad where I got a degree in
chemistry I then went on to the
University of Florida College of
Pharmacy in Miami that's are in Orlando
and I'm currently a community pharmacist
as you said and I for a large chain down
here in the southeast and I'm currently
focused on a lot of things outside of
the pharmacy in terms of providing
better patient care but also and with my
company med buys but all
so in terms of learning more about the
industry of pharmacy I founded the
podcast rx radio I've been you have been
fairly involved on campus when I was in
school and I tried to continue that
involvement as as I graduated and just
be a part of you know advocating for the
profession and and building that brand
of what pharmacies gonna be like in the
future all right well what I thought we
would do for this episode just introduce
you I have a feeling we're gonna be
talking quite a bit you're one of the
new hot stars in the podcast space if it
were others there's about 20 of us or
maybe 10 of us across the country but
what I wanted to do is kind of go
through each of your episodes and we'll
go in order just to keep it that way
just so you can keep it in your head so
I know the episodes but I don't
necessarily know the names so you went
right out of the gate with your first
first you did your intro but then you
did episode 1 and you interviewed a med
student what made you go
interprofessional before you even messed
with another pharmacist yeah so
interesting thing about that is his name
is dr. Adi chakra he was a he was
actually a resident a medical resident
in in Minnesota it just timed really
well I was actually I did a trip up
there and just to visit him specifically
and he was a really good friend of mine
we both got degrees in chemistry at
Florida National University and I was
you know it was just a timing thing
where I was in the middle of or in the
midst of starting rx radio and I was
like hey do you wanna you know do you
want to be on it you know yeah your
friends we talk a lot and I instantly
wanted to know what his you know what
his views aren't were on with
pharmacists and how he interacted with
them so I thought that hey wine I'm sure
there's gonna be pharmacists are gonna
love to hear about this and hear what
views a physician has on on pharmacists
so let's let's right out of the gate
let's you know jump into that so that's
how that came out okay well now you have
an undergrad in chemistry you could have
gone to med school if you'd wanted to
you made the decision to go to pharmacy
I hear two different things sometimes I
hear that pharmacy is a very clean
profession you know there's no getting
dirty there's no deal
with impactions and things like that yes
what was it that made you decide to go
to pharmacy when you could have readily
gone to med school yeah so I was very
focused on the building relationships
with people and I was well aware that
people saw their pharmacists much more
frequently than they did any other
health care professional sure and I
wanted to be able to be in that role to
be able to have that impact and build
that relationship with that person in
addition I wanted to focus on you know
the management of certain diseases and I
think that early on I saw a little bit
of of you know what the role of I think
of physician in my eyes what a physician
is it's like hey find out what's going
on like pleat like we need you to figure
out what is going on and what the best
course of action to start might be but
then I also realized that there was
another part of health care in terms of
helping people manage those things
finding out what's going to be the best
treatment for that person and I wanted
to focus more on on that management of
disease states after we found out what
was wrong and what was going on okay so
tell me a little bit about what made you
go to the next episode you didn't you
went from Minnesota then you took an
international flight across the Atlantic
to the United Kingdom yeah and I was
just in Ireland for it would have been
in vacation two years ago we went in
there we could get some diclofenac gel
for ten bucks no doctor's visit say you
know no trip to the BlueCross BlueShield
to get everything approved everything
got taken care of very quickly you can
just go into the pharmacy pharmacist
there's so many more pharmacies over
there but tell me what made you go to
the UK I would have thought that the
first person that you would have talked
to was a retail pharmacist yeah us well
a funny thing is I actually did not I
wish I would have gone there I've
actually never even been to Europe okay
and part of that was me you know and
that was also part of why I wanted to do
this episode I was lucky enough to meet
to meet that guest on on Twitter and I
asked him I let him know said hey I have
a setup where I can just you know pretty
much do what we're doing here now and we
did set up a Google hangout and I was
able to get record him on a phone call I
wish I would have gone over there but
I'm I'm so interested it's so like
before before I even started this the
podcast I had no I don't know pharmacy
in Florida okay yeah I'll be on like not
even the US I would say and and that's
all that was in my mind I went to school
here grew up here and it's just
fascinating to know that there's a an
equivalent to APHA over there or there
equivalent to there is actually a
Walgreens over there and you know like
there's yeah exactly and I was so
curious to see like how that was what it
was like and and get to know more about
like what pharmacy was like
internationally and that's where it
started because it started with the UK
because he I mean he was just someone
that was he's fairly active on Twitter
and and other social media platforms in
advocating for the profession and I
thought it would have been a great a
great host to come on okay then you took
a flight back from the UK you came to
talk to a pgy to resident and I got to
listen to a little bit of a bit about
that and so I want to see if you could
talk about who should be in a residency
who shouldn't because when you think
about who's at the pharmacy school these
are almost all residency trained
pharmacists so they're gonna say oh yeah
residency but then when you get into
your ap PE s or your appease those are a
better mix of what's really out there so
first let's kind of talk about what
would make someone go PG y 1 PG Y to you
personally I think decided not to go
that route yes that's correct for me
personally I was very open to it I was
actually prepared to do a residency I
you know did all the you know
involvement and and and I followed all
the steps that what's usually encouraged
in terms of getting prepared to apply
for residency but then getting closer
towards the the decision-making with a
sh p and going to that and all that
stuff I I decided not to apply because I
felt that my my passions were nowhere
else but in the community in the
community setting and I just didn't see
and I know they they do have community
residences but at the time I didn't see
you know that being something that was
worth pursuing because I just didn't I
personally just didn't feel like it was
needed for what I
wanted to do but in terms of who should
and who shouldn't I
there's a moment in time right now that
I think that pharmacy is going in such a
crazy direction that I would say you
know unless you have some other
opportunity unless you have personal you
know things that need to get taken care
of before you know or right when you
graduate school I would probably
encourage people to seriously consider
doing one what that either that or a
fellowship even because the the
community pharmacy as we know it now is
there might be a day that we're gonna
look back and like can you believe we
used to put pills in a bottle like that
might be a day that'll come in the
future and I just I'm not sure if going
straight into the community and not
doing a residency we're not having that
residency training to be able to go and
do other things if you know coming out
of the gate if that's gonna be the best
move for people because of what the
future of pharmacy is gonna look like
you know and and unfortunately a lot of
people really think short term you know
they think like oh my god I don't do a
whole nother year where you're gonna be
practicing for another possibly 30 to 40
depending on if you win the lottery or
not you know exactly so I you know it to
me it might be worth just you know
buckling down and and taking that one
year of training to be able to keep your
the future of your career open yeah and
I know what the loans I think the
average is 160 360 for now so it's a bit
scary and I know that making decisions
sometimes emotionally rather than
logically is a little bit tough
especially after nineteen twenty years
of college yeah another another two
years exactly know once you get to pgy
three you're like I could have done med
school and three years of residency and
you know so yeah but it sounds like
we've got two different fields really
where where medicine is kind of going
its own direction Pharmacy its own and
we'll all be part of a group so now you
let's take the airplane we're going back
to the UK like this traveling thing this
you know I know the Canes are flying
around yeah but tell me a little bit
about going back to the UK again what
made you talk to a UK pharmacist again
she was obviously very interested in her
patients and she was what I thought I
understood as a floater out there yes so
she is a community pharmacist so the
first guest that I'd spoken with he's
actually focusing his career on I
believe like policy and going into the
government for you know that kind of
route in terms of being a pharmacist I'm
not the traditional roles that you know
you know what we think of in terms of
being a community farmers but she was a
she was a they would artwork you know
floater basically for a chain and I
think she also worked for an independent
and with her I wanted to dive more into
like the dated days of what her
struggles were which was which was crazy
because there was a you know the UK and
obviously other other countries as well
the the health systems are so different
you know in terms of how care is
provided who's paying for what whether
its private whether it's you know by the
government but and there's so many
differences but there's also so many
like it's like similar pain points that
we have and you know in complete
different countries with complete
different cultures complete different
governments there's there what I what I
really discovered with her is that you
know pharmacy as a whole has a lot of
very very similar pain points that we
were able to dive deep into okay and so
I think we're about the halfway point so
before we go on to the independent
pharmacist so it sounds like a looseness
of associations like we say the next
word and then it goes to the next topic
so we had independent community but tell
me a little bit about med vise what that
is and because now we're kind of talking
about community pharmacy and you're
talking about an MTM company so first
tell me where the entrepreneurial spirit
came from and then how you're actually
putting it into practice yeah so um
there might be you know the
entrepreneurial spirit in me there might
be some genetics that might be involved
in that
my daddy G yeah G my
is he's a business owner in our country
he's from my family's from Trinidad and
Tobago I'm a first-generation American
and you know he owns service shops and
Trinidad my uncle owns the equivalent to
Triple A here he owns that in in
Trinidad and I didn't really you know I
guess I didn't think to really scratch
that itch but as I started getting to
sing that I was gonna be out in the real
world after school even though I was
like 27 yeah I I just started to see
that there's a lot of things that I
wanted differently and and there were so
many opportunities and I just felt that
it wasn't being taken care of like even
if I wanted to do those things and
didn't just want to be an entrepreneur
which to me it's it's not the the
entrepreneurial thing it's just I feel
like it's my only option almost at this
point but it just you know being that I
feel like I had those genetics there it
just dawned on me that I need to do this
on my own
and try to create what I would I
envision for the future of pharmacy and
patient care yeah I've heard the term
the gig economy where percentage of jobs
that are full-time is not increasing
while the percentage of part-time is
increasing so tell me about this med
vici I don't really know much about it
if you can just kind of start from the
beginning just in case the listeners
don't know anything yeah sure so uh you
know the way I like to kind of explain
it to someone that's never heard of it
especially if they're not even in health
care is you know when we have when we
have complex tax situations you know
whether it's because we have businesses
or we have deductions or all kinds of
things it's not just a simple you know
fill out a form and sign it we go to a
professional you know we go to a you
know a tax professional and we pay a tax
professional to handle that for us
saving us a time and sharing things are
going properly and I think that same
logic should be applied to medication
management you know there's been tons of
studies that show that MTM is you know
obviously it has we know the impact of
it there I don't really need to do any
more studies honestly it's the me it's a
waste of money at this point it's like
$3 to $1 yeah we know 300 percent
exactly we know it's impactful and now
we just need to start doing I think and
and um I basically wanted to create a
company and a brand that when people
think about managing their medications
they think that
having a personal pharmacist and you
know just like one of the gym you have a
personal trainer help you with
Timmy I think the model of having a
personal pharmacist is where the future
would be leading to so I basically
wanted to create something where someone
can say hey I have you know toniest
that's my pharmacist whenever I get a
medication he knows everything about my
history he knows where I need to get
that medication from he knows how to get
at the best price all those types of
things and it is currently set up where
it would be unfortunately a cash service
because you know it's most insurance
companies aren't recognizing this beyond
you know their their Medicare patients
so right now it is mostly a cash based
system I would say for lack of better
words where they people would pay
directly for for MTM services what
concierge the concierge my French isn't
very good but a concierge physician is
one that's on-call ready to talk to you
this sounds like it doesn't have to be
in the middle of the night hey I just
went to the Walgreens overnight can can
you tell me what my medicine is for it
yes more about is it appointment based
or something like that it is it is
appointment based but I've I've that's
for like a CMR so like a comprehensive
education review I would say it'd be
like appointment based but there there
are certain models that I have where you
would just pay for a CMR and that's kind
of it but there's also a very similar to
concierge medicine where it's like a
subscription base where you pay a yearly
a yearly fee or like a six-month fee and
you have access you know to that
pharmacist for you know the simple
questions and things like that just to
have someone that you know you can trust
in a relationship with but there's so
that's the you know in terms of what's
it called in terms of like having that
relationship with a patient and it's
it's subscription-based okay can make
appointments for like those tmr's like I
said but I wish you funny you mentioned
the concierge medicine thing eventually
after you know some brand building and
and I want to actually start working
with physicians to provide services for
their own practice because I want to
provide packages to physicians to say
hey you know I see you're already doing
concierge medicine
but do you have you know are you
providing this type of service to your
patient where they can contact a
pharmacist you know for a real specific
or detailed questions that you don't
really need to be bothered with so
that's one thing I want I see for the
future of it as well
okay well it sounds like you're you're
kind of setting up with some of the
things that some of the states have done
in a Washington state allowed provider
status but most of it was on a cash
basis but then they're showing such
improvements in cost so it's kind of you
have to show the money is there but it
sounds like someone who's a concierge
physician is going to very rapidly find
out that they're going to run out of
time and a way to expand that time would
probably be to hire someone like you to
take care of the medication side after
initial consults and things like that
well well let's take it from there too
now we're gonna go to and if I think the
owner if I remember right he said he had
like two or three people working under
him and there's a took Armas II so
that's on the other end so you're a
solopreneur right now yes and then
that's pharmacy owner multiple
pharmacies giant employee payroll what
made you call him if you're you know on
the solopreneur out yeah so uh you know
I didn't know you know much about his
operations before we had spoken but he
too is another person that is was active
on social media which is basically how
I've been meeting most of everyone I've
interacted with outside of you know
pharmacy it's been on social media and
he was one of them and you know I saw
the he owned a pharmacy and I wanted to
dive deep more into that but it seems
really cool because he does have he's
really I think he has like a well-oiled
machine with what he's running right now
where he has those three individuals
under him pretty much handling most of
operations yeah while he's just kind of
you know chillin yeah but I mean I'm
pretty sure he's deep into you know also
making decisions and monitoring
operations and stuff like that too but
that's how that came about okay so then
you took a trip to a PHAs mrm so the
southeast for people that don't know
includes probably all the way up to what
the Carolinas most of the SEC the
Southeastern Conference basically yeah
tell me a little bit about what made you
go to mrm if I remember right that's a
student-run conference it is a
student-run conference which was super
funny because I was you know
I went I got into to Charleston Friday
night and you know I wanted to you know
mingle and go and talk to people and
everyone's like so um so what school are
you from and I was like no but I just
got you know I explained why I was there
and you know and their mood totally
changed and they saw I was a pharmacist
which was really cool to see also I
didn't think they would have expected
pharmacists to be rolling around roaming
around like you know mingling that was
that was that it is student-run but it's
crazy because it's not just students
there it's like be like most motivated
and involved students you know from
their schools and that so that
experience alone you know it there was
there was so much energy and passion
there it was it was really cool to see
whereas if you go to if you just go to a
pharmacy school you know you'll see
students there but some of them will be
super involved some of them just kind of
going in going to the motions but here
was like anyone you talked to it was
like straight passion like you know like
fire like in terms of like Chinese
because you you're getting those
students that are gonna go and travel
and maybe spend that extra money and
yeah and that the time it takes to get
there and make those connections so
those are those are definitely Liston's
and you you kind of went the gamut I
think the first one was from South South
Nova Southeastern yes and then a couple
Gators was it is that first there's two
Gators on there as well we had someone
from Mercer as well okay yeah so you got
a pretty good gamut of them yes okay and
then if I remember right I were you in
somebody's living room for the next one
this is the first video time I'd ever
seen it was on Facebook yes but I was
like they're sitting at the kitchen
table yeah so I brought you know I
brought my rig with me to to get some
recording done at APHA I wanted to get
you know get some good quality audio and
it just worked out where my doctor might
Corvino he's the founder of core consult
rx where they provide updates and things
like that on social media for pharmacy
practice and him and I just hit it off
and you know so I was at his house for a
while is like hey let's record an
episode you know let's you know get your
thoughts on where future pharmacies
and pharmacy practice so yeah the next
episode was us in his living room with
his dogs you know recording a podcast
and that that was you know it's just so
crazy to technology like you know you
can get all this stuff out there
anywhere like you're in your kitchen I'm
in my living room I think but you know
yeah I mean I'm in my living room which
is basically in my kitchen and you know
so it's just cool that we can do this
anywhere so I took advantage walls and
visiting over there with him
so okay and then here's where we
intersect Tyler Dalton was my first
interview on the pharmacy future leaders
really I met him on Twitter okay he had
you know for for pharmacy I was a little
surprised when I get students in like oh
what social media are you on and they're
like oh I do some Facebook there's no
Twitter there's no insta there's none of
that they're so petrified of you know
looking bad maybe they have a LinkedIn
but Dalton have been kind of spreading
the word about nutrition I talked with
him about not what's the seven second
it wasn't Instagram it was fine yeah
that doesn't sound right
anyway he would heed these seven second
clips of his like meal that he's
preparing and all that stuff and
nutrition how did you run into that
sorry yeah yes notice yeah it's a social
get you up on this man no no so I got
7,000 on Twitter 10 almost hit on
YouTube yeah I've got five on snap so
yeah but tell me a little bit about how
you ran into him and how is it that two
of the podcasters ended up finding this
guy as the nutrition guide yeah so I you
know this really all comes back to how
we're able to you know pharmacy such a
small community and when you put us on a
social media it just becomes so easy to
find who stands out and who sticks out
and you know being on social media we
were able to connect and you know we
just obviously I saw that he was real
focused on something and it really helps
to when you when you have some sort of
focus also I would say because you start
to kind of build that brand for yourself
and that was one of the things that I
just saw him continuously posting about
was you know nutrition and you know
whereas like there's some pharmacists
I'll post about all kinds of things and
then one nutrition post you know so sure
his was just nutrition like just you
know back to back to back and I thought
that was super interesting and you know
that episode was really cool like I had
no idea that you know where that story
you know what his story would have been
like and seeing how how he got
passionate about you know mixing the
nutrition part into into a pharmacy
practice but social media was you know
it's been the the Gateway to everything
that I've been uh pretty much producing
so this far ok well now it's time to put
you on the spot so you've gone to you
the UK twice you've gone to like eight
different states so you've gone around
you've done your exploration in the
podcast realm
what's your brands gonna be because it's
it's obvious you're you're kind of
gathering data getting your name out
there yeah but and I know med vies might
be part of it what what's your future or
what are you looking to future to be
well in terms of the weight the current
track that it's been going I am I have a
couple pharmacists that that are that
I've reached out to already that um I
really want to expose what pharmacy is
like and as much with as much detail as
possible day to day in everything that's
not what we traditionally know as well
pharmacy is yeah you know I wanna I'm I
just recently spoke with a pharmacist
that's doing like big data management
you know she's doing a fellowship and
and in patient organization like data
and stuff like that interest and she's a
pharmacist you know initially I have
another pharmacist that works in the
emergency department one in transplant
that I've been you know behind to get on
the show and I want to continue to to
definitely be a place where people can
if they want to know about what farms
he's like in different areas of not only
practice in the in the u.s. here but
also the world I think that that's I
think I hope they would think of the rx
radio name to go to I I just recently
started falling a bunch of pharmacist
from Australia that I'm hoping to you
know get on the show at some point I
haven't really talked to anyone directly
yet but hopefully that'll come but one
real big driver of why I also did this
was because I have a
of advice and things that I want to get
out into the world about professional
like career development and personal
development um in terms of interviewing
skills in terms of networking in terms
of how to tell their own story and and I
think that this will be a platform I
haven't even started that yet but but I
think eventually that's gonna come for
me as well
because I felt that I did a really good
job when I was in school at studying it
learning it and then being able to have
a structured way of handling certain
things when you're well to build your
career well with Australia I'm just
going back to it I know we've got a
couple of Pharmacy podcast episodes
where we talked to Robert star s ZT AR
and that might be a guy to talk to I
don't know if he's still doing his
podcast he he was an independent guy and
down there I don't think there are any
chains real life right here right about
Australia it's it's they just said no
chains we're gonna we're gonna do this
independent thing and I mean it makes
sense that the whole island was
independent from Britain
yeah or the but it sounds like that
might be a guy but so it sounds like
you're I may be having kind of the same
thing where what I do in terms of
product is my pharmacology books and
that doesn't really match what I do
talking to the leaders in pharmacy with
pharmacy teacher leaders so how do you i
guess what do you see how do you see
yourself kind of bridging that divide
because it sounds like you've got two
brands you've got the Josh gates
expedition pharmacy Expedition unknown
let's talk to people around the world
and around the country yeah which is
awesome and then on the other hand we've
got this kind of exploration of
entrepreneurship being one on one with
the patients and then you've got your
third you know role as your as a
pharmacist yeah so how do you think all
these come together or is it gig economy
where we this is how it goes you have
two three jobs no III honestly think
it's it's the it's the latter I I think
that you know it's just there's gonna be
some separation things things might not
ever overlap you know specifically and I
feel like I've had to be really good at
making sure that happens specifically
because being in a community pharmacy I
had to make sure that I wasn't you know
engaging in things that were like a
conflict of interest sure so I really
had to make sure
you know something stayed separate and
I'm not I don't even I really don't even
think that you know met the met by stuff
will ever kind of crossover tarik's
radio but within rx radio itself I think
that you know in terms of like
professional development and versus you
know like exploring pharmacy in
different you know countries that might
take its form differently like one might
be more video based you know I plan on
starting a new YouTube channel soon for
you know videos for both on Facebook and
on YouTube which might be more of like
me you know kind of maybe teaching or
like giving my advice about like how to
better you know develop professionally
and in your career and then you know the
audio versions might only be like the
interviews I have with other pharmacist
like it might go that way but in terms
of like the overall you know scheme of
podcasting versus you know MTM versus
like you know the night the traditional
nine-to-five all those like 9 to 10 kind
of thing you know the integration of
that is probably going to stay pretty
pretty segregated I would say I think
okay so let's talk i've just got three
questions at the end here but before i
ask those questions what's the best way
if somebody wants to contact you get to
know a little bit more about you maybe
this is that emergency met doc that
you've been or pharmacist that you've
been looking for yeah what's the best
way for them to get in touch with you
yep so um you can send me a an email
that's I check my emails quite
frequently Richard at med viscom that
Richard at meed viz I'm on Twitter
at the pharmacy dude so you can find me
on there I might change that I don't
know if I'm gonna stick with that but
it's not a cool it was available but
right now I'm currently on Twitter at
the pharmacy dude muscle on Facebook you
can go you can go to facebook-dot-com
forward-slash pharmacy dude I'll pop up
there as well that's good yeah all right
and then what's you I think a lot of
people don't start entrepreneurship
because they don't have their ducks in a
row in terms of getting all the things
in their life kind of set up so that
they have that extra time what's your
best daily ritual to keep everything on
track so that you can do all of this
other stuff
on people are not gonna like this answer
and and and it's and I know that for
sure because I don't even like the
answer I just work late honestly it's
giving up fun okay like I there's so
many fun things that I you know I used
to do or I wanted to do when I graduated
that I had to no longer you know be able
to engage in because there's just you
know we all have the same 24 hours in
the day and we all still need a you know
to be a you know a normal human being in
society get you know between four to six
hours of sleep so I you know it for me
it's been just giving up fun and
realizing that you know any free time
that you have should be towards building
relationships with the people that you
love and then building you know
relationships with the work that you you
know love as well to you know to build
for the future so well I'm having fun
now but that's cool I guess I do have to
add into you do have to love what you
what you're doing on that side as well
you know at the end of the day even
though you know I say fun in the
traditional terms of like you know out
you know playing tennis or racquetball
but I love podcasting I love meeting
people I love what we're doing here
interacting I love providing you know
patient care to people I'm on Twitter
all the time just trying to talk to
people about you know because they
posted that they have like acid reflux I
love doing it and say hey I hope you you
know like I'm a pharmacist on Twitter
and I can help you but but it also - I
would say probably I should have really
mentioned that in there it's it's about
you know that work that you're gonna put
in it's about loving that also yeah I
I've got to say that pharmacy podcast
has been kind of an incubator for me I
started I had a hundred Twitter
followers a year and a half ago now I'm
up to about 7,000 I had a thousand
YouTube followers now I have like 10,000
yeah my book was selling a couple copies
a week now it sells 20 a day and it's
almost makes 50,000 a year so I it just
it just blew up so I know that you're
you're gonna have a similar experience
but tell me a little bit about well I
have to change this you're gonna be the
first person I'm gonna change this
question with because I've asked
45 times normally I ask what is the best
career advice you've ever received or
given but I since you are the the multi
preneur don't take that name I kind of
want that yeah
multi preneur calm but but what is the
best careers advice you've ever gotten
because it sounds like in some way what
you've seen what you've done has led you
to a road that will not be happy with a
single job and nor is that necessarily
safe so what's the best careers advice
you've ever received the best careers
advice like in terms of like like going
to your careers like you you become a
podcaster you become a retail pharmacist
you went to pharmacy school you took a
chemistry degree who is the person that
said you know you should do this or did
you just kind of like seems like fun
I'll do organic I am you know I actually
have a great story for that then so you
like got me into this like who like okay
her name her name is mrs. Katya okay she
was my I I had I was not like the best
student right in uh in high school but
for some reason I took an AP I don't I
don't know what I was didn't show up to
the AP test but there's some reason I've
somehow enrolled in one AP class my
senior year was ap psychology she was
myself a teacher yeah okay she um she
she was actually in I think the story
goes she was in pharmacy school at some
point and then like something happened
and she decided not to pursue that as a
career she wanted to teach and I don't
know what I was like I was a jock like I
was I didn't I had no good grades I
almost didn't go to like like a
university I was going to go to like you
know the Community College because I was
all I feel like I could have gone into
and um she was like like what are you
gonna do with your career I was like I
don't know I probably do like business
or my mom's a nurse maybe I'll do
nursing and she was just like what about
pharmacy and I was like I don't know
like and and just after her telling me
that that was all she said she was she
didn't give me other options she wasn't
like what about this what about medicine
thank you you know what about being a
physician or what about being a police
officer she was like what about pharmacy
and I don't know what she
saw in me or I guess maybe she she might
have known that I might have been
successful with that or maybe she know I
would have liked it but that's the
option she gave me and I looked into it
and I was like I think this is you know
a really good fit for me and and now I'm
talking to you on as a pharmacist you
know about why I'm a pharmacist so I
thought that played out la leyenda de
Senora Correia something like the legend
of mrs. Carrillo is Korea um so tell me
a little bit um just the last thing what
inspires you you've obviously committed
to the profession and you're committed
to everything you do you obviously you
didn't just pick up a mic and you've got
a great rig there you letting everything
go out with great quality what inspires
you helping people I really want to help
people like everything that I do in
terms of you know learning about things
obviously I want to you know have have
personal goals in my career and things
like that but what I think helps me love
everything that I do is that like I know
it at every moment I'm helping someone
yeah and sounds good and that to me is
what is what's really been driving you
know it drove me in school you know it
drove me the late-night studying you
know it drives me when I'm stressed out
at the pharmacy it's just knowing that I
get to help like that one person at that
one time yeah well dr. Richard wait
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