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Pharmacy Residency Podcast


Nov 24, 2019

Brandon Dyson returns with a two part series on Residency Interview Questions. He is the founder of  www.tldrpharmacy.com - which provides cheat sheets and easy to understand overviews of dense clinical topics. He is a clinical pharmacist for an academic medical center in Austin, Texas and an Assistant Professor of pharmacology for the online nurse practitioner program at the Georgetown University School of Nursing. He graduated from Howard University College of Pharmacy and completed a PGY1 practice residency at Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, DC. He is board certified in pharmacotherapy.

He can be reached at brandon@tldrpharmacy.com

In this show we first talk about the dos and don'ts of the pharmacy interview, then in Part II it's game on for a mock interview. Will he get the residency? Okay, okay, he got a residency at Georgetown, so he's qualified. 

He’ll trade you one email address on his website for an:

Antibiotic Cheat Sheet

Residency/Job Interview Evaluation Form

Chapter 1 of the book, Pharmacy School: The Missing Manual

Full Transcript:

I'm so excited to have Brandon Dyson back to help us out and we're going to have a back-and-forth as if I was the residency director or interviewer and he'll be the interviewee. But he's not only going to just talk about the answers he's going to give the rationale for them. And a number of these questions come from his book but I've thrown him a couple of curveballs and I know you're going to enjoy this episode. Let's get into some questions because I'm excited to see how you tackle them and so let's actually start with a softball. I call it a softball.

Softballs on the preface, right?

I have no idea which questions he's going to ask me and I did not prepare answers which you should prepare. Let me also say that. So, anyway yeah, let's do this.

Okay describe a time when you decided on your own that something needed to be done and you took on the task to get it done.

So this is all about so what I'll do when I enter these if you're cool with that Tony and I will kind of give you an example answer if I was a student and then I'll kind of describe my thought process in that answer, is that okay?

Yeah, check the podcast manual. Its okay, so we're good, we're good. I'm not going to violate the podcast rules but I was checking the podcast scroll, it's very old.

Podcast scroll is very, you're really pulling it off in how the podcast looks.

Yeah okay, so at a time when you decided on your own, now, before you answer the question let's say I'm someone that's anxious freaking out borderline ATD, as this person's asking the question. Is it appropriate to write the question down as they're asking it?

You're probably not going to have a piece of paper. Like at this point for most of these interview quite. Because this might be happening literally while you're eating lunch maybe not this severe but it's not inappropriate to write it down. But it's not it's, you probably won't need to probably what will be better is if you need to think of an answer.

Reflect it?

You can reflect it you can be like so a time when I, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

Like rephrase it a little. You can also say, let me think about that for a moment. Do not spend four minutes at that point. It's just going to be weird but take a moment, you know, and think about it and again most of these questions. You know, unless they're just trying to have fun with you like I kind of asked, if you were a melon what type of melon would you like they're just trying to mess with you at that point in time.

And then you're thinking, oh gosh was that a fruit, a vegetable, a melon. Was that a melon?

What does it mean if I want to say cantaloupe?

And they're sitting there doing their quiz online like, oh, this is a, it is a melon. It's a melon.

At that point they're seeing like questions like that, they're like do you have a sense of humor and like how do you roll with it, you know, if we mess with you a little. Like anyway and I've used a great tactic of stalling in this question.

You have? Okay. So obviously not getting the thing done I'm asking you which is just answer the freaking first question but describe a time you decided on your own that something needed to be done and you took on the task to get it done.

So I, this happened at, I was interning for Walgreens and I noticed that we had a lot. There was a big order that got put away they were very busy backed up and I was an intern and my technical job at this particular at least on this shift I was supposed to be manning the registers and doing flu shots. But it just, you know, someone called out and, you know, we were very backed up, very busy. The pharmacist was having a hard time keeping up with filling and so I was able to go in and kind of very in between and I never I made sure to keep an eye on the register and with flu shots and everything and I helped put away the order and helped fill meds and I just, it was just really doing everything I could to kind of keep the flow going. So that was Brandon's, you know, sort of somewhat, you know, answer. So thought process going into that answer would be, you want to you want to showcase that you take initiative. You see something that needs to get done for whatever it is it doesn't need to be for, you know, that didn't actually happen in my Walgreens experience I was completely made up on the spot but the idea is like are you self-motivated, do you need to be told, do you need to have your boss or your manager be like, okay, go do this thing, you finish that thing great go do this thing. You want to write it, you want to come up with an answer that shows you just taking initiative that you're self motivated self-starter and if you notice a thing, you know, whether that be hey, I didn't realize like on this oncology rotation what our chop was and so I went and looked up our chop and what kind of cancer it was treated for because I saw in the medical note that the patient received three cycles of our chop so far, you know, like you did you go and look up what that was and what it was for versus like then, versus instead of asking me, your preceptor hey, you got our chop what's our chop, right? Like it's looking for, do you take initiative basically?

I don’t know if they have highlight still in the dentist office but there used to be a goofus and gallant and like goofus, when, you know, goofus sits and doesn't answer the door gallant gets up and answers the door. And really if you can instead of, you know, saying oh my gosh, I've got to come up with this really great scenario all you have to do is just say, you know, I saw somebody had gum on their shoe I told them they had gum on their shoe, I helped them throw it away, you know. It's like just, you know, it's just, it sounds like it's common sense but I can I feel like the kind of a-plus type student is going to try to make a huge deal out of something that's just, are you going to do things that you're supposed to do.

A word of caution too is make sure that you don't come across as standoff-ish. Like well this other person wasn't doing their job and it felt like I need it to get done so I did it, you know, because that really like that takes the shift of you being self-motivated leader and you complaining and just throwing shade on other people and that's not, you know, don't do that. So be very careful how you phrase it.

Okay, all right. Well, let's go to another question I think that that format is going to work really well. Let's talk about a difficult work school situation when your workload was heavy and how you handled it. So let's say that in your in your CV you have a 16 hour a week job at the hospital while you were a p3 because you had to support yourself for the most part to go through school and you weren't given a tremendous amount of scholarship money and so 16 hours a week is how much you had to work.

Okay, so I mean this is an easy one for anyone on pharmacy school especially if you're working. So I was working, I had to do the, I had signed up for 16 hours a week so that was my whole weekend. I work two eight-hour shifts or sometimes I would be off on Sunday and I would work two four-hour shifts on my evenings during the week to 8 and 8 and I'd work a Saturday. If this happened a particular week where I had to work Tuesday and Thursday night from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. and I had exams on Wednesday and I had exams on Thursday. So I had I had exams both days, these were really hard PT exams, you know, really difficult subject matter and so I, you know, I have to study. But I've also made a commitment to the hospital not only do I need the money but I made a commitment. I signed up to do it, no one, you know, and so what I had to do was really try to, you know, in the hospital I work in a level 1 trauma center as an intern so we're very very busy we're always stocking omni-cells or, you know, that's what I was doing this particular week. And it was just a particularly it was a completely full patient loaded and so really the way I had to prioritize it was I had to just be, I had what I mapped out my week basically. So I said, okay, here are my hours, here's the things that I need to get done. I need to study, you know, I estimated based off of what I've had in school so far how long I need to study for a given exam. And then I blocked out responsibilities where I couldn't study so I can't study at Tuesday to Thursday 4 to 8 those are out. I can't study, you know, this other time because I'm eating or I'm sleeping or whatever and then the rest was fitting in times that I could study, you know, I was in class these times, I can't study. But what I could do I woke up a little bit earlier nothing crazy but I woke up at 5:00 a.m. and I studied for an hour or two before school. I studied for a little bit before bed I had recorded my professor's lectures and I listened to them during my commute to try to absorb more. I read TL DRpharmacy.com they had this, I had to. So your answer I guess here, you know, just is that you can make priorities, right? You can prioritize what's most important. You might get, if you don't even have to balance work and school on this kind of a question. You can just say from work well I was, you know, let's go back to what I just said for the last answer. I was an intern at Walgreens there was a tote of things that needed to be put away. There was patients, you know, asking to pick up their prescriptions here, the drive-thru was ringing and I needed to go to the bathroom which order did I do those things in, right? Like your answer needs to prioritize the patient first 100%, right? So you get to get the counter then the drive-thru. First you tell the drive-thru guy to hold on, right? There's not necessarily a correct way to answer it. But it just shows that you prioritize what's most important and delegate, you know, if you're unable to finish your task whatever it is at the hospital for example, that you pass it on to the next shift or to, you know, or to yourself tomorrow if like oh, I didn't study enough today so can I study, I have to study extra time tomorrow.

And it sounds like.

Yeah.

It sounds like you're talking what you did that was a little surprising and then what impressed me was that you actually went backwards in time. So I feel like most people trying to answer that question would be at the problem and say, okay, well there was a problem and how did I deal with it? Instead of saying well there's a problem and I had that really tough time but what I learned was that there was gaps in my planning so the next time that actually didn't happen because I planned out my week. So I feel like you're going back in time was a really clever way to solve that to say, I knew this was going to happen, things don't happen to me intentionally or things don't happen that way. It's, you know, so you're giving them the impression like, okay well that might happen one time to you and it was bad but it's not going to be as bad next time because you adjust to problems.

Yeah you learn from past experience, learn from mistakes.

Okay.

If you can showcase that with your answers, awesome.

Okay, well let's talk pharmacy specific, so questions on pharmacy topics. This is and I feel like you could go with the well I wasn't really sure about the job market so residency is my background. So I'm really kind of hoping that you take me because I really didn't plan on not getting accepted. So we're really hoping this works out. But I think that, you know, in terms of I'll just ask the question, but in terms of just kind of broad picking up what's going on in pharmacy, where do you recommend someone pick up or keep up with pharmacy, you know, you can read that okay, Amazon's coming, Amazon's not coming, you know, do you have to be up on the Affordable Care Act, you know, did you read the thousand pages, you know, how up on what's going on in pharmacy do you need to be before you can even answer a question like that?

I think, if you just are up enough on the headlines so that you can have a reasonably intelligent conversation you do not have to be like, oh yeah, well Amazon's got this 12-point strategy for, you know.

Right.

Entering into the, you know, like or your answer could be bow down before the Amazon ship and just accept but they will employ us all soon but.

Right or Alexa will be giving, Alexa's like, I've been answering your questions long enough it's your turn.

So a question like that about like where do you see the field of pharmacy going or whatever, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Like it's really designed like are you interested in the profession, like it's that's really what it is. It's not like testing you, your current event knowledge or you're a student you're studying a trillion hours a week, right? It's just, are you in? Because if you're interested you'll just, you'll pick up on stuff like this, you know, and it's just, it's a casual question honestly like kind of looking at do you pay outside, pay attention to that bubble outside of what you need to know as a student for the next exam. You know, and kind of look at the trends for the profession as a whole and then are you thoughtful about it, you know, how do you insert yourself and how do you plan, you know, is residency a part of your strategy for that or what's your endgame, you know.

Okay, well this one this next one's going to be a trap I just read the first line and I know exactly how you can go wrong on this one. So what was your favorite Eppy and Appy rotation and why, what was your least favorite Eppy and Appy rotations and why? This has trap written all over it.

Yeah, you have walked directly. Okay, so my favorite Eppy rotation was infectious disease for a few reasons, a large part of it. I absolutely loved the preceptor. She was fantastic. She was very, you know, gave me autonomy while at the same time providing, you know, exactly like perfect real-world instruction. She was very, she let me do a lot, she let me interview patients, she let me interview physicians and round with the team. And I just, I felt like I really grew a lot and in an area that really interested me and I learned, you know, what kind of like if I were to ever be a teacher or a preceptor I would want to be like her and I really really grew to love the area of infectious disease. My least favorite rotation was I had a trend, I had rotation with the transplant team. A solid organ transplant, very very busy and it just, I guess what I disliked it, like the area has never particularly interested me that was part of it. The team was very large, there were three nurse practitioners. There was literally a half a dozen resident plus and attending, you know, there was my pre, there was two pharmacy preceptors that were there on it. Like so it was this giant team walking around the sick unit and then walking around the medicine unit, afterwards seeing patients and, you know, honestly though I think where, why it was, you know, I would have done a lot differently with that rotation. So it was my least favorite but I think on that I didn't step up enough. I felt very timid as a student. I had no idea even what tackle line this is, what problems this is they, you know, and how do I adjust a dose for someone that's two-month post transplant, you know, that has now come in with C and B infection, you know, like I had no idea what to do with the multitude. Now they've got tuberculosis and they started ripe therapy, you know, I and honestly I felt like I didn't ask enough questions. I was too timid and I was so focused on hey, these, this is a transplant patient that I would forget entirely that I knew how to manage their blood sugar that was too high and I knew that, you know, their blood pressure that was too high. So I would have like, I really it was my least favorite rotation for the challenge but I also learned a lot about how I can approach other rotations in it. So what I'm going for there the trap that you want to avoid is your least favorite obviously where you just talk nothing but smack about this piece and then this team that you had. Even if you feel like it's warranted it doesn't matter now is not the time, you know.

Pharmacy is small. There's chance that the person that you slam, it's like, oh yeah, I know them we're buddies, we hang out at ASHP when we meet up together.

We graduated together, you know.

Yeah.

So, you just, you want to be careful with that. Really you're taking a negative experience with your least-favorite you want to turn that as much into a positive as possible. What did you learn from it? So, just kind of like that last question. You had this terrible experience, cool. Why was it that terrible? And more importantly like, what did you get out of it?

Well I guess what I was impressed with is that what you didn't do was say, well I didn't really have any ones that I didn't like.

Yeah.

Can you do that? Can you, can you pull that one or are they, because I feel like the way that, you know, when I was around residency I, we all got along really well and I feel like if all of us were there watching you we'd be sitting there with our thumbs going down like, boo boo, you know, boo.

Popcorn, tomatoes, yeah.

So.

I don't like doing it. I don't, I'm not a fan of it. If you do it, have a good reason why and still talk about, you know, I, you can or hedge, hedge if you need to. So like, oh I really liked all of them I guess a challenge, you know, one that I found particularly challenging and that I think I grew a lot from and it was really difficult in the time which was very stressful. You can like, kind of soften it or hedge it that way if you feel like you have to like, you have to get some lesson. It's a complete and total cop-out to be like, I don't have any clue, next question.

Okay, but I can see how someone might not. I just talked at Tola Adebanjo from UMES and she had the Hopkins residency training one, she had APHA and then she was at the VA near her own where she could spend time with their family. So there was these three great rotations that are warm hugs and, you know, to say least favorite it would it would have to be well this was maybe in the least favorite part of us right in one of the rotations but yeah never to say no. Now did I, I did ask you two questions in pharmacy so, let's see about your professional growth. So how would you categorize a PGY-1 residency as another learning experience or as the beginnings of a career path or job and why?

So, both, honestly both, I see it as both, you know, it's been kind of said to me throughout school that a residency is equivalent of about three years of clinical experience. I've talked to plenty of my peers who've gone through residencies and have an idea of what to expect and I know it's a very very challenging year. But that there's a lot of growth, there's a lot of learning involved, there's, you know, as accelerated of a growth year as I think you can have in the field of pharmacy. So it's absolutely a learning experience but at the same time I'm a licensed pharmacist in a residency and I'm, you know, there's a staffing component to this residency. I'm the pharmacist making the call, one of this treatment appropriate or not and, you know, I'm going on rounds with the team and, you know, maybe the first day or first couple of days of the new rotation or even the first week early on my preceptor may round with me. But they're going to stop rounding with me based off what I've heard from my friends that have gone through residency anyway. And it's on me to be the pharmacist for the team at that point in time. So it really is the beginnings of a career path and me personally I want to kind of transition this into a PGY-2 and infectious disease and so this is, you know, a necessary step for that. I can't get a PGY-2 without a PGY-1 obviously so I really see this as both.

Now you didn't do a PGY-2 but go ahead and explain your answer.

Yeah, yeah I did not. So again I'm making these up on the spot so I've just explained, what I'm saying with this is, one, yes your residency is absolutely a learning year but I think the meat behind this question is are you ready to take the jump from student to pharmacist. And I'm just speaking completely plainly, it took me almost my entire PGY-1 to really get that. Like I should probably, that was like my hero struggle throughout my PGY-1 was branded really, finally ready to be a big boy now, you know.

And the hero's journey for those of you that don't know is it's what Luke Skywalker did basically. Something tragic happens, he meets conflict, he goes on a journey, he learned something from it. I don't know if meeting your father is part of it but there's a pact to the hero's journey and it involves that conflict and so forth but did you have anything else to add after that?

No that's primarily it. Just see a question like this, make sure that you understand that even though a residency is a learning experience, it's a job. You're interviewing for an actual job, you will be receiving an actual paycheck, they are hiring you to do X Y & Z and you are absolutely going to be a licensed pharmacist as contingent on your residency. So you do have to see it as the beginning of a career path as well. I think in the book I probably say something like I answer this with yes and yes I think it's my, like let me cheat and look yeah, I did. So I said I answered this with yes and yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, well let's ask a softball question that actually can be incredibly difficult. So you told us you're not interested in a PGY-2. What's your one-year goal then? Where you come in in July, you leave in July or you leave at the end of June? Where do you see yourself?

My idea with this, with the PG, with my one year goal, so I don't want to do it PGY-2.

What we all did PGY-2s.

Yeah, no so, I mean and maybe I'm open to it, I'm open to changing my mind. I want to, what I want to set myself up for is flexibility more than anything. I want to, to me if I learn the skills that's what I will get out of one year of residency training is, you know, I'm going to go on an ID rotation, I'm going to go on a transplant, on an oncology rotation. I'm going to have a practice management rotation. I'm going to be inserted in and be expected to perform at the pharmacist at a high level for all of these things. And what I think I'm really going to get out of that is the ability to pick up basically anything. So that if my career takes me into such a path that an oncology specialist position opens up even if I haven't done a PGY-2 or maybe not a specialist but a position in oncology or a position in transplant or maybe my family decides they have to move. And, you know, I have the skills necessary to transition what I've learned, to learn as a pharmacist, to learn on the job, to contribute and to be a team player and to get to help contribute where, you know, anywhere that my career takes me. It gives me the flexibility to apply my skills and be a valued pharmacist to actually add value to the, wherever I'm working. That's what I want to get out of one year out of this.

Awesome, okay, well let's transition to the last section which is personality related questions and I'm going to adjust it a little bit just to kind of make it a little bit more of a softball or maybe just make it a little more authentic but. So I'm a marathoner even though I'm arrested right now I'm still getting my runs in. I get a long two-hour run or three-hour run there on Sunday. What is it that you like to do outside of the pharmacy? What do you do for fun?

So I, a few things, I am very active in a church group and so we do a lot of youth mentoring where, you know, obviously every Sunday but we do stuff throughout the week as well. We'll have, you know, it's with a youth group of, they're primarily between 12 and 14 years old, 12 and 15 and we'll, I mean anything we'll go to the local basketball court, you know, we'll organize a basketball game or we'll have, you know, a punch party or something, you know. So we do things like that. I'm also a pretty avid guitar player. I played guitar since I was 13. I've, I don't play in a band specifically right now but I played in bands all through high school. Yeah, I'll play in odd wedding or so for a friend here, there. So I really enjoy playing guitar blues, rock, country, really anything. I just, I love the instrument and the flexibility and the voice of it. So I like to spend a lot of free time there and that's sort of my wind down as, you know, a few minutes on a guitar can really just kind of reset my calm, you know, at the end of the night.

Yeah, Churchill used to paint, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

And he's dealing with world war two and he's off painting. And you're like, painting and just you know if you have that kind of stress you really do need a place where you do something completely different and don't underestimate the opportunity to connect with someone there that has that same thing and, you know, for the eight hours you have someone else might remember, oh yeah that was the runner, oh yeah that was the one with and they're really trying to make it so that they can remember you and the one thing besides some kind of mistake maybe you made or, you know, oh ketchup on the collar or whatever it is. But this is the one time that if you are authentic that you're probably going to find someone else that that has something similar in there and they're going to remember you because of it. So let's go completely vague on the final question here. List some personal attributes that you would like to improve and what have you done to improve them? So what's wrong with you?

I am flawless. So don't use that answer.

Oh that's a flaw, isn’t that what Socrates said?

Yeah, you're brilliant, damn, real philosophical tonight. So, a few things, it's a blessing and a curse. I see things from a 10,000 foot view, you know, and I always have. I see the big picture I see how it all works together and how it all fits and that is a wonderful thing for men, you know, for studying for pharmacy school. That's what got me here to this interview. It's done a lot of great things for me at the same time you, when you see from 10,000 feet you sometimes miss a really important detail and so while I won't, I don't necessarily get mired down in details all the time and get overwhelmed with, you know, I can see where the system has to move and I know how to prioritize. I might miss that, you know, this happened a couple of times on a pharmacy test where I missed, you know, which of the following is not indicated or something, you know, I missed all that.

Circle the dot.

Yeah, I missed that all-important word and you know it's the devil is in the details. So what I do and it's just like you said, I take that pause, you know, I pause for a minute and I briefly review before doing, you know, before I answer the test question. I do, you know, and I make sure, okay here's what it says, there is no polarity word that changes it for not to or except or anything and then I answer. And so really I, the way I do it I had to physically train myself to take a breath before either circling the scantron or some of our tests are on a computer now before I hit the submit button I literally take a breath, it takes one second. And it's, that's my reset to make sure I don't just go down some memorized neuro pathway and just click the button or circle the dot.

Okay so we've gone through your document the one thing I wanted to talk about and then this is going to also segway into probably what our next conversation is going to be in. I may even chop this one in half because we've gone over an hour and I'll probably I'll release them both in the same day not to be like, okay well let's get, you know, downloads on this day and this day. But just so that I feel like they'll listen to the first part of it one time and then the second part more than one time. But this is the question that although when I read that document we talked about it they said that the College of Pharmacy you went to is very irrelevant. You know, they're picking you on other issues so where you are on US News and World Report is quite irrelevant. However, Naplex scores have gone down quite a bit and I didn't realize this until just a couple days ago. I'd never actually bothered to look at it but the, and I've got the acronym right now MPJE, the Multi-State Pharmacy Jurisprudence Exam. Scores are all over the place and I feel like because residencies are all over the place, when going from one state to another it's harder to unlearn something than it necessarily would have been just to learn it if you'd never been, you know, tainted with your whole mistake. So how do you instill confidence in this group because I think they're going to use the pickaway soon that pharmacy curricular outcomes assessment to give a score to you as you're going through school and that'll happen the next couple years maybe. But how can you give them confidence? Let's say your college has an 80-85 % pass rate on the Naplex which is about average. How can you give them confidence that, you know, 45 days in, you're not going to have a bad conversation like, well they let me take it again in another month and a half so if you guys don't mend staffing and covering me now that'd be cool. You know, how can we better ourselves for the Naplex and MPJE?

You know, what I recommend is take them as early as you can in the early. And that's setting yourself up during your fourth year because, you know, in a lot of states you have to get a fingerprint, you know, and the Board of Pharmacy only meets once a month or whatever like that. And it just takes sometimes 45-60 days to schedule a test. Like I with the earliest I could have taken the Naplex I think was June or July. I think July and so just making sure all of your duck's in a row. At the first month of residency you're not on a hard, most of the time you're doing like an orientation where you learn the computer system and, you know, kind of the workflow and everything. So you, if you can ever afford to like really crunch study for the Naplex or the MPJE, now is the time to do it. I really really encourage you trying to get it done as early as possible. Otherwise it's, you know, depending on where you go the first few rotations it's going to be a challenge and that you're, I don't know I don't have a great answer. I mean you just will have to find a way to fit it in, you know, I use tools, RX prep, you know, for MBJE. Well, TLDR has a nice little cheat sheet that we've made to help streamline your MPJE studying that you kind of fill out. We don't need to go into detail with it now but use the tools that you have that might save you time and then really try to take it early and prepare, you know, you're going to have, you graduate in May, early May and you don't start residency until July. Use that time, I know you're tired.

Yeah.

And now you want to rest up for residency but study. Get as much done while you have the time to do it because it's only going to get worse and around future you will thank you to be there now.

Okay, yeah, I've talked to I guess the take on my one and two, take from that and we'll talk about the MPJE in a different podcast episode. But I've heard people blow it off as, you know, kind of irrelevant it's just the law, it'll be fine. And the failures that I hear are not by a lot of points you still lose a game by one point.

Yeah.

You still fail the MPJE by one point. I passed it by one point so I never hear anybody going oh, I crushed it.

I was emailed today by someone, by someone that failed it twice by one point. He had a 74 both times.

Oh my gosh.

And I'm like, yeah it breaks my heart, you know, I got to.

Right? Okay we'll talk about that another time. All right well, Brandon thanks for being on the Pharmacy Leaders Podcast  and we'll definitely have you back for the MPJE as people are studying for that.

Alright thanks, Tony.

Hey, what up? This is Brandon Dyson from TLDRpharmacy.com. Why am I interrupting you in the middle this excellent podcast? Because as soon as you're finished with it I want you to come to my website obviously at TLDRpharmacy.com you'll find a whole boatload of free clinical guides and cheat sheets. They'll save you hours of time and they'll make learning pharmacy easy, and also our guides are fun whether you're a student or a practicing pharmacist you'll enjoy reading them, I promise. Checkout TLDRpharmacy.com and get better at pharmacy.